In episode 69 of The HR Famous Podcast, longtime HR leaders (and friends) Tim Sackett, Kris Dunn, and Jessica Lee come together to discuss Shopify’s CEO laying a smackdown on workplace politics and how hiring in the post-Covid era is the risky age of the “quick quit.”
2:00 – KD (our resident book expert) mentions the book Edge City about suburban areas that become their own cities when they get enough leasable commercial real estate.
5:20 – KD asks the crew what they wear on the Fourth of July. Tim and his family wear the Old Navy flag t-shirts every year.
8:30 – Tim and his wife went to D.C. for the 4th when his wife was pregnant for the first time, and they were not prepared for the madness!
9:30: KD is seeing so much fast churn in the hiring world right now due to the tight job market and heavy hiring right now.
12:30 – JLee is really fascinated by the metrics of a “quick-quit” or a “quick-churn.” She mentions that it’s really important when her company is opening new hotels.
15:30 – Tim mentions how HR treats new employees so roughly and if they’re seasoned employees. This can ruin new hires and make them want to leave.
18:40 – JLee says that onboarding shouldn’t be treated as one person’s job, just like company culture. Everyone plays a role, and everyone needs to be all in.
22:00 – Tim says that a piece of the onboarding issue is relationship-based. Good recruiters can do this well because they are good at building that relationship.
25:00 – Everyone’s favorite topic:politics in the workplace! KD brings up the Canadian company Shopify. Their CEO made a statement saying that the company is not a family but it is a great team. The statement was made to try and tamp down divisiveness on politics within their teams. KD notes that the CEO is left-leaning, had enough of activist employees, and that his guidance was epic.
29:30 – Tim speaks about how if he’s working with someone who is good at their job and giving him what he needs from a team perspective, that’s all that matters to him. He doesn’t have to be friends with everyone he works with.
32:00 – Jessica commends the statement for discussing how there isn’t a one-size-fits-all approach for how a company can approach politics and social issues, and everyone will do it for how it fits their culture.