I just noticed how I do the high voice when I intro these videos! That bugs me. I’ll have to find a way to make my voice tired so I can open with a deep Barry White voice next time! Enjoy!

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A real conversation happening in all organizations across the U.S. last week, and it will continue, is whether or not your organization was going to add Juneteenth as a paid holiday. I dive into the HR operational side of this question. It’s definitely not a simple, straightforward answer, and everyone in your organization is going to have an opinion!

Hit me in the comments:

1. Will your organization add Juneteenth as a paid holiday?
2. How many paid holidays should employees have?
3. Should we just give “X” hours/days of PTO and you as an employee can decide which holidays you want to celebrate?

So many things to talk about this week! The Supreme Court came down with a landmark decision that seems way overdue. Starbucks puts their uniform policy into the public eye with whether they should or shouldn’t support #BLM. Michigan opens their barbershops and Tim get’s his salad chopped!

In episode 14 of The HR Famous Podcast, long-time HR leaders (and friends) Jessica Lee, Tim Sackett, and Kris Dunn are joined by Tim’s son Cameron and HR professional Chris Hoyt to talk about holidays during quarantine, finding a job straight out of college during a recession, and recruitersrecruitingrecruiters.com. The team discusses the struggles of finding a job in a recession for a college grad, changes to candidate experience, and better ways to hire during a pandemic.

Listen below (email subscribers click through if you don’t see the player) or click here for a direct link. Be sure to and be sure to subscribe, rate, and review via iTunes, Spotify and Google Play.

Show Highlights:

1:30 – Mother’s Day is coming! Jessica wants some peace and quiet for her special day and Tim’s wife wants diamonds. It sounds like some good gifts to me!

3:30 – Where do you get your Mom’s Mother Day flowers? KD shouts out 1-800- Flowers and tells a story about a disastrous bouquet of Wal-Mart flowers. Moral of the story: don’t buy flowers from Wal-Mart.

6:00 – Happy (belated) Birthday KD! What we’ve learned is that KD prefers store-bought cakes to homemade cakes.

7:00 – Welcome Tim’s son to the podcast! Cameron is a recent grad from the University of Michigan and joins the conversation to discuss finding a job during a pandemic and fills us in on what his job search has been like for the past few months.

10:00 – Has the candidate experience decreased since the recession started? Cameron hasn’t seen anything shady from employers but has seen a lot of uncertainty and jobs being canceled or postponed.

12:20 – Have you been ghosted from a lot of jobs? Cameron has only heard back from a real person for 3 out of 70 jobs he applied to. Not many rejections too! Is that because of the uncertain nature of the times?

14:50 – Would Cameron go work for Fox News if they offered him a job?

16:00 – Are career services still active during the pandemic? Cameron uses Tim as his personal career coach but has seen lots of friends get early job offers from college recruiting and career fairs.

18:10 – Hot gossip alert! Cameron spills the tea on how Tim is as a personal career coach.

20:00 – Quarantine time is a good time to learn new skills! Cameron has been working on podcasting. Look out for the Disney Channel rewatchables coming to your favorite podcasting service near you! KD and Cam discuss their favorite episodes of The Ringer’s Rewatchables podcast.

23:00 – Tim gives us a branding lesson. Buy your kid’s URLs and reserve their email addresses and social media handles early!

25:15 – Time for the second guest! Tim welcomes long time friend Chris Hoyt to the podcast.

26:00 – Chris discusses his work Career Crossroads and what they do for talent acquisition and recruiting. Tim loves it!

28:20 – Storytime! Tim tells us how his wife, Kim, met Chris in Park City, Utah, and really liked him.

29:30 – Recruitersrecruitingrecruiters.com! Say that five times in a row! Chris talks about his newest project inspired by the cooperation between CVS and the hospitality industry during the coronavirus pandemic.

32:20 – Looking for a recruiting job? There are about 150 jobs available on the platform with over 250 employers.

35:00 – #firstworldproblems. Are you experiencing Zoom fatigue?

35:30 – How can you guarantee candidate experience with such high unemployment? Chris discusses how it’s uncertain whether the same levels of candidate experience can be kept up and Tim talks about mistakes he made in the last recession.

In episode 13 of The HR Famous Podcast, long-time HR leaders (and friends) Jessica Lee, Tim Sackett, and Kris Dunn try to defeat boredom and come together to talk about quarantine listening habits, Airbnb’s hiring practices, unpaid internships, and Netflix doc American Factory. The team discusses their feelings and thoughts on Airbnb’s postponed hiring, unpaid internships and other working experiences, and the documentary American Factory.

Listen below and be sure to subscribe, rate, and review (iTunes) and follow (Spotify)!

Show Highlights:

2:30 – The team starts out sharing with us their favorite quarantine comfort music playlists full of music. Turns out the group has some different tastes: Tim likes basic Spotify playlists, Jlee likes Nick Jonas, and KD likes grunge. This also features a brief discussion of Post Malone’s tattoos.

8:00 – Onto the rundown for the episode. Airbnb has postponed post-grad hires to 2021 and the crew talks about the investment they have made for their own PR. Tim weighs in on the workforce needs for Airbnb and other tech companies and how they will continue going forward.

11:45 – KD sees through Airbnb’s “publicity stunt” and calls them out for being unfair for postponing post-grad hires until August 2021. Tim discusses some potential writing on the wall that may have led to this decision. Maybe they’re being forward-thinking? KD seems skeptical.

15:00 – Bro trip! KD talks about the last Airbnb he stayed in with Tim in Orlando. The pictures sure weren’t telling the whole truth….

16:20 – Marriott plug from Jlee! #notsponsored

17:00 – Topic change: internships! Lots of internships have been canceled for summer 2020 leaving soon to be grads and recent grads in a bind. Also, Hipster Sackett is the best Tim Sackett

20:30 – Tim discusses the evolution of unpaid internships. He believes young adults need to use unpaid internships to build relationships, have experiences, and find mentors to advocate for them. Do you believe in unpaid internships? Should all interns be paid?

23:15 – Who can afford unpaid internships (especially in this economy)? Jlee discusses the need to look at capabilities and skills rather than experiences for new grads in order to level the playing field.

25:30 – KD discusses the addiction to doing internships with huge brands. He advocates for looking locally to gain experiences instead of going for the big guys.

26:45 – “Interns have zero value” – Tim Sackett. What is the real point of internships? Recruiting. (Just saying an intern is writing this right now so no value???)

28:00 – Should companies be allowed to advertise unpaid internships? KD says no but thinks that unpaid experiences should be allowed in order to benefit the person looking for a resume booster.

29:45 – Jlee predicts Tim’s Glassdoor ratings will be plummeting.

30:30 – American Factory time! KD challenged Jlee and Tim to watch the 2020 Academy Award-winning documentary about a Chinese company that took over a GM plant in Toledo, Ohio. The team discusses their likes and dislikes.

35:05 – Jlee weighs in on the depiction of Chinese culture in the documentary. Although she came in skeptical, she was pleasantly surprised by the reception of the workers in the movie.

36:10 – Motor City native Tim discusses fat-fingered Americans and the camaraderie and commitment of the Chinese company.

40:00 – The crew ends on their favorite scene. Tim likes the chairman’s frankness about unions and Jlee agrees. She especially likes the interpretation from Chinese to English. KD likes the cut between the Chinese company energy to the Toledo break room.

43:30 – Watch American Factory!

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